Hello Board. Below is a quote from an Atheist who claims that he does not believe in morals. I called him on this and here is one of his responses to me. The reas on I am putting this here is because I am still learning how to use logic and sometimes I believe that I might be committing fallacies myself. The fallacies I have accused him of are the following: Question Begging, Ad Hominem, Argumentum Ad Populum, and Complex Question. Any positive or negative comments are welcome as I want to learn and not remain stagnate in pride.
Quote From : philstilwell March 2, 2010, 5:13 pm from another Forum:
For other readers who may be reconsidering their position on god as I once did, consider first the logic of the christian contributors. If there was a holy spirit that was able to give christians an advantange, wouldn’t he guide believers in a way to avoid logical blunders? Next, consider the arrogance they exude. Would not believers who have possession of the holy spirit speak as christ would? Just a couple thought for your journey. Cheers, Phil
More Ad Hominem and Question Begging. I’m referring to your Appeal to the People to “consider the logic of the christian contributors”.
Question Begging “when a proposition which requires proof is assumed without proof.”
So…provide the logical blunders. You say they are there but you have yet to prove this. Just making an assertion doesn’t make it so Phil.
Then you provide a Loaded Question (aka Complex Question) “A loaded question is a question with a false or questionable
presupposition, and it is “loaded” with that presumption. The question “Have
you stopped beating your wife?” presupposes that you have beaten
your wife prior to its asking, as well as that you have a wife.
If you are unmarried, or have never beaten your wife, then the
question is loaded.”
Here is an example of the fallacy being committed by you:
“If there was a holy spirit that was able to give christians an
advantange, wouldn’t he guide believers in a way to avoid logical
blunders?”
and
“Would not believers who have possession of the holy spirit speak as
christ would?”
Ad Hominem “A debater commits the Ad Hominem Fallacy when he introduces irrelevant personal premises. about his opponent. Such Red Herrings may
successfully distract the opponent or the audience from the topic of the
debate.”
An example of this from you: “Next, consider the arrogance they exude.”
